Thursday, February 02, 2006

RIGHT ISLAM v WRONG ISLAM

RIGHT ISLAM v WRONG ISLAM
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SHORT SUMMARY SHALL BE POSTED IN THIS SPOT...OHHH AND I WILL TRY TO ASSIGN A COLOR FOR EACH: Americal Infiden, Ann, reaganite to make it easier to follow what was said and by whom...
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#69 American Infidel 1/1/2006 05:15PM PST
#56 Mr BeamishAs if Islam was more tolerant back when Muhammad's ghazis beheaded the Jews of Kaibar. Articles like these compound the problem. Islam HAS NEVER BEEN A TOLERANT RELIGION. Pretending that it once was, or could one day again be, misses the point entirely. Ohhh come now, you cannot burst peoples bubble that islam can have a reformation...Only its complete destruction will save the world from the fate of a worldwide caliphate...Pretending that islam was once peaceful allows people to think that there are "moderate" moslems and that a worldwide crusade will not have to take place...

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#86 Ann 1/1/2006 05:30PM PST
#69 American Infidel

Only its complete destruction will save the world from the fate of a worldwide caliphate...

Nice rational, global strategy of genocide you got there, Chicken Little.islam is incompetent. Always has been. We have that going for us. Understanding history is always comforting.Do you come here just to vent your insanity, or are you really so insanely full of hate and short-sightedness?

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#108 American Infidel 1/1/2006 05:49PM PST
#86 Ann

Nice rational, global strategy of genocide you got there, Chicken Little.

Name calling, great style of argument...It sure has shown me my place...My compliments...

islam is incompetent. Always has been. We have that going for us. Understanding history is always comforting.

Wow, I didn't realize islam was so incompetent...
Afterall, within 25-30yrs of Mohammad moslems had conquered Northern Africa, made huge inroads into Europe, congquered the Middle East, moved east to Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, parts of India...
Yup, and they have so fine tuned that ISLAM IS PEACE message that leaders around the world repeat it mantra like...The leaders of Eurabia alone are kissing moslem arse at every turn, because of the agreements they have made while moslems feel absolutely no compunction to fullfill their part of the deal...Yup, islam & its followers are incompetent...

Do you come here just to vent your insanity, or are you really so insanely full of hate and short-sightedness?

None of the above, and I think you've just proven my reason for coming here, I enjoy watching the likes of you spouting off about things that you evidently have no clue about.

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Reaganite with Post #114 joins the fray and does some ankle biting of his own:
#114 reaganite 1/1/2006 05:52PM PST

#108 American Infidel None of the above, and I think you've just proven my reason for coming here, I enjoy watching the likes of you spouting off about things that you evidently have no clue about.

Perfect description of yourself.
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#142 Ann 1/1/2006 06:02PM PST
#108 American Infidel
Just lay off your irrational genocide fantasy.It could get you banned from here.I don't know what safe outlet you would have for your hatred if that happened.Have you spoken to any Service Members? They are quite optimistic, which is enough for me. They have firsthand knowlege. You don't.If you want to vent, say so. Don't preach your Ultimate Solution.


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#163 American Infidel 1/1/2006 06:12PM PST
#142 Ann#142 Ann 1/1/2006 06:02PM PST
#108 American Infidel
Just lay off your irrational genocide fantasy.It could get you banned from here.I don't know what safe outlet you would have for your hatred if that happened.Have you spoken to any Service Members? They are quite optimistic, which is enough for me. They have firsthand knowlege. You don't.If you want to vent, say so. Don't preach your Ultimate Solution.

I have told you on numerous occassions Ann, that making assumptions is not a good idea...Saying "destruction of islam" may not mean "the final/ultimate solution" as the world has come to understand it...Perhaps next time, if you are unable to understand, you would ask for a clarification before jumping to conclusions...

An addendum to Post #163 follows in Post #172:

#172 American Infidel 1/1/2006 06:17PM PST
#163 Addnedum

Oh and BTW, no I haven't spoken to any servicemen, but then neither have you, not on matters of national security anyway. So while you're attempting to pull the wool over everyone else's eyes, why dont you try opening your own...

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#174 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:18PM PST
#172 American Infidel Oh and BTW, no I haven't spoken to any servicemen, but then neither have you, not on matters of national security anyway.
She lives with one you twit.

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#181 Ann 1/1/2006 06:22PM PST
#163 American Infidel Perhaps next time, if you are unable to understand, you would ask for a clarification before jumping to conclusions...
I have watched your posts on this topic. I am not jumping to conclusions.Lighten up and talk about cold remedies for a change.Since life as you know it is to end soon, why don't you relax and enjoy your end days?You are the prophet, after all.


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#189 American Infidel 1/1/2006 06:27PM PST
#174 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:18PM PST
#172 American Infidel

Oh and BTW, no I haven't spoken to any servicemen, but then neither have you, not on matters of national security anyway.

She lives with one you twit.

My understanding is that you are retired, therefore if you were involved in national security, it would have been withdrawn...

Also, if you were not retired and involved with national security you would not be allowed to discuss national security matters with someone that did not have a security clearance...
Besides, weren't you involved in some type of bomb exploding activities?!? That does not indicate a very high level when it comes a security clearance...

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#195 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:30PM PST
#189 American Infidel Besides, weren't you involved in some type of bomb exploding activities?!? That does not indicate a very high level when it comes a security clearance... [A.I.]

I thought you were the all knowing expert on all matters?I held a Top Secret clearance and served on the President's security detail. Nah, that does not "indicate a very high level".Clueless to the end.

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#206 American Infidel 1/1/2006 06:38PM PST
#195 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:30PM PST
#189 American Infidel Besides, weren't you involved in some type of bomb exploding activities?!? That does not indicate a very high level when it comes a security clearance...


I thought you were the all knowing expert on all matters?I held a Top Secret clearance and served on the President's security detail. Nah, that does not "indicate a very high level".Clueless to the end.

Never paid attention to what you did for a living, though all the talk about your retirement party pointed to you exploding stuff...

Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

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#207 Ann 1/1/2006 06:40PM PST
#172 American Infidel Oh and BTW, no I haven't spoken to any servicemen, but then neither have you, not on matters of national security anyway.


[A.I. - the ever important statement that even at this point has not been understood by either Ann or reaganite]

I live near, and worked at Fort Bragg for a bit.Dealt with happy soldiers every day who have been in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Phillipines, etc.They are a happy bunch.Did you know that Assan Akbar stabbed an MP in the neck with a pair of scissors here? Open knowledge now. He got his ass kicked by that MP. The ambulances rushing by were for Akbar, not the MP.Go volunteer at you local VA Hospital if you can get off your ass.

It will do you good.

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#208 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:41PM PST

#206 American Infidel

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?


Really,you need to try and keep up. You made an accusation, I once again showed you that you are wrong. Now you are trying to deflect your own idiocy.

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WELL, THE ABOVE POSTS ARE BASICALLY WHAT THE ENTIRE DISAGREEMENT IS ABOUT...
FEEL FREE TO READ THE REST, IT IS NOT ALL THAT ENTERTAINING...LOL
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#209 Sarah D. 1/1/2006 06:41PM PST
#206 American Infidel Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?Let's see. Retired AF with a TS clearance as compared to your what? What clearance do you have AI?
Honestly?

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#225 American Infidel 1/1/2006 06:53PM PST
#208 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:41PM PST
#206 American Infidel If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

Really,you need to try and keep up. You made an accusation, I once again showed you that you are wrong. Now you are trying to deflect your own idiocy.

Begin by acknowledging all that I said, I shall help you out:

#195 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:30PM PST
#189 American Infidel Besides, weren't you involved in some type of bomb exploding activities?!? That does not indicate a very high level when it comes a security clearance...

I thought you were the all knowing expert on all matters?I held a Top Secret clearance and served on the President's security detail. Nah, that does not "indicate a very high level".Clueless to the end. ...

Never paid attention to what you did for a living, though all the talk about your retirement party pointed to you exploding stuff...

Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

1) I don't see an accusation, I see two questions that deserve an answer especially since Ann volunteered the information, which you later confirmed...Ann said (post #142):Have you spoken to any Service Members? They are quite optimistic, which is enough for me. They have firsthand knowlege. You don't.You confirmed (#189):She lives with one you twit.

2) You have failed to answer my two questions, which I have bolded in order to point them out to you...I await your answers to my questions...

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#228 reaganite 1/1/2006 06:56PM PST
#225 American Infidel Really, this is getting old. You were wrong again. I showed you that you were wrong, again. Really, try to be an adult. It's really not that hard.
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#233 American Infidel 1/1/2006 06:58PM PST
#207 Ann#207 Ann 1/1/2006 06:40PM PST
#172 American Infidel


Oh and BTW, no I haven't spoken to any servicemen, but then neither have you, not on matters of national security anyway.


I live near, and worked at Fort Bragg for a bit.Dealt with happy soldiers every day who have been in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Phillipines, etc.They are a happy bunch.Did you know that Assan Akbar stabbed an MP in the neck with a pair of scissors here? Open knowledge now. He got his ass kicked by that MP. The ambulances rushing by were for Akbar, not the MP.Go volunteer at you local VA Hospital if you can get off your ass.It will do you good.


I applaud you for your work Ann, but this is not about your work...It is about you having enough of a SECURITY CLEARANCE to have reaganite sharing TOP SECRET information he may or may not have been privy too while serving the POTUS...


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#239 Ann 1/1/2006 07:02PM PST
#225 American Infidel I await your answers to my questions...


Oh, hell! Just google Explosive Ordinance Disposal Technician, you alarmist idiot.Again, you make us laugh. Still no answer, but a demand that I google something and it is supposed to mean something to me.

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#242 American Infidel 1/1/2006 07:05PM PST
#228 reaganite#225 American Infidel

Really, this is getting old. You were wrong again. I showed you that you were wrong, again. Really, try to be an adult. It's really not that hard.

No, it is not that hard reaganite...
All you need to do is answer the questions I posed in post #206 & 225...I will help you out once again and repost the questions:

Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

Those questions arose because of the comments you (reaganite) and Ann made in posts #142 & 189:

Ann said:Have you spoken to any Service Members? They are quite optimistic, which is enough for me. They have firsthand knowlege. You don't.

reaganite said:She lives with one you twit.


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#246 reaganite 1/1/2006 07:07PM PST
#242 American Infidel
All you need to do is answer the questions I posed in post #206 & 225...
I will help you out once again and repost the questions:
[reaganite]
No you pompous cow, I do not have to answer your idiotic questions. You were wrong, deal with it.I'm done with you tonight, you're just to dense.

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#247 American Infidel 1/1/2006 07:07PM PST
#239 Ann#239 Ann 1/1/2006 07:02PM PST
#225 American Infidel

I await your answers to my questions...

Oh, hell! Just google Explosive Ordinance Disposal Technician, you alarmist idiot.Again, you make us laugh.
And that has what to do with reaganite serving the POTUS, potentially learning TOP SECRET INFORMATION and potentially passing it on to you and others in his circle that may or may not have a TOP SECRET CLEARANCE as reaganite claims he had?!?

Addendum to Post #247:
#258 American Infidel 1/1/2006 07:12PM PST
#247 AnnOhh and one more thing...I am not laughing, especially if a person that has TOP SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE (reaganite, as he claims) sharing it with people that DO NOT HAVE TOP SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE (Ann, for instance)...See posts #142 & #189...I don't find this to be a laughing matter, not a laughing matter at all...

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#267 American Infidel 1/1/2006 07:21PM PST
#246 reaganite#246 reaganite 1/1/2006 07:07PM PST
#242 American Infidel

All you need to do is answer the questions I posed in post #206 & 225...I will help you out once again and repost the questions:

No you pompous cow, I do not have to answer your idiotic questions. You were wrong, deal with it.I'm done with you tonight, you're just to dense.

I shall not assume the answers to the questions I posed, therefore I feel an obligation to leave them open for you to answer at another time:

Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

Feel free to answer them at anytime...

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#273 Ann 1/1/2006 07:24PM PST
#247 American Infidel

And that has what to do with reaganite serving the POTUS, potentially learning TOP SECRET INFORMATION and potentially passing it on to you and others in his circle that may or may not have a TOP SECRET CLEARANCE as reaganite claims he had?!?

First you claim that he has problems with his plumbing and now you attack him for Treason.Sigh.If you are talking about Akbar, I told reaganite about the attack. I heard about it from a JAG who witnessed it in the JAG office as Akbar met with his Counsel.Often reaganite cannot fully explain my questions. I respect that.You will be happy to know that I am a lot more secure about the limited destructive capability of nukes since I have known him and those who he served with. Damn MSM, again. Relax on that account.Um, how else do you want to discredit him? I forgot.Oh, and did you google EOD yet? Hillary had an issue with him, but Condi never whispered in his ear. You are truly an alarmist, irrational idiot.I am getting shit for Ordinance v. Ordnance right now, so you better be worth it.


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#282 American Infidel 1/1/2006 07:31PM PST
#273 Ann#273 Ann 1/1/2006 07:24PM PST
#247 American Infidel

And that has what to do with reaganite serving the POTUS, potentially learning TOP SECRET INFORMATION and potentially passing it on to you and others in his circle that may or may not have a TOP SECRET CLEARANCE as reaganite claims he had?!?

First you claim that he has problems with his plumbing and now you attack him for Treason.

In both instances that you mention Ann, I asked questions...Currently, I am still asking questions...Take the time to re-read them:

Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

The above are questions Ann, now I would like some answers...

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#294 Ann 1/1/2006 07:40PM PST
#276 American Infidel My questions stand...

Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

Um, Bomb Technicians search and dispose of bombs that may be found anywhere near those who have USSS protection. Get the DVD "Inside The Secret Service" from National Geographic. He is in a frame at President Reagan's funeral, and had to pay dearly for that.

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

See above. You are an idiot.He was detailed to Air Force One on 9/11. Had to drive home from Sarasota.Are your panties in a wad after hearing that?

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#304 American Infidel 1/1/2006 07:49PM PST
#294 Ann 1/1/2006 07:40PM PST
#276 American Infidel

My questions stand... Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?

Um, Bomb Technicians search and dispose of bombs that may be found anywhere near those who have USSS protection. Get the DVD "Inside The Secret Service" from National Geographic. He is in a frame at President Reagan's funeral, and had to pay dearly for that.

If you were privy to the information discussed by the POTUS why did you go around blabbing it to Ann, and if you blabbed it to Ann who else did you blabb too?!?

See above. You are an idiot.He was detailed to Air Force One on 9/11. Had to drive home from Sarasota.Are your panties in a wad after hearing that?

Ohhh I see, so reaganites TOP SECRET CLEARANCE is not as top as he made it out to sound...No wonder there was no answer to my question: Were you privy to what the POTUS discussed with for instance Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell or Secretary Rumsfeld?!?He could just have said NO, the questioned begged for a yes or no answer...With a NO answer, the second question would have become unnecessary...Therefore, he is not privy nor was he ever privy to any TOP SECRECT INFORMATION that indicated what type of problems we are facing with ISLAM...And you only know what a soldier on the ground experiences and not what say for instance a Sec. Rumsfeld or a Sec. Rice may or may not know about the potential difficulties & destructiveness the fight with ISLAM shall have?!?

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#320 Ann 1/1/2006 08:01PM PST
#304 American Infidel I really hope that you read this link.If it knocks your head off, so be it!Some folks don't need to lie. I take it that fact bothers you.Damn, you got issues. That's all I know.9/11 Stories. Reaganite's account.

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#328 American Infidel 1/1/2006 08:11PM PST
#320 Ann#304 American Infidel
I really hope that you read this link.If it knocks your head off, so be it!Some folks don't need to lie. I take it that fact bothers you.Damn, you got issues. That's all I know.9/11 Stories. Reaganite's account.



The only issue at hand here is whether or not the claims that reaganite had made in reference to his security clearance and you claiming to have privy information were true or not...It has become obvious that neither of the claims were true...Otherwise I have no issues, and your & reaganites personal attacks do nothing but muddle the waters...

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#337 Ann 1/1/2006 08:23PM PST
#328 American Infidel
The only issue at hand here is whether or not the claims that reaganite had made in reference to his security clearance and you claiming to have privy information were true or not...

Oh, for Pete's Sake! Get the fucking movie that I referenced. Anyone in that environment has to have that security clearance! You need to get out more.No, maybe you don't. I would feel better knowing that you are snug in your Mama's house, posting here.Don't get banned, AI. I worry about you out in public. You need this blog to keep you away from everyone else in our society.


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#341 American Infidel 1/1/2006 08:32PM PST
#337 Ann#337 Ann 1/1/2006 08:23PM PST
#328 American Infidel The only issue at hand here is whether or not the claims that reaganite had made in reference to his security clearance and you claiming to have privy information were true or not... Oh, for Pete's Sake! Get the fucking movie that I referenced. Anyone in that environment has to have that security clearance! You need to get out more.No, maybe you don't. I would feel better knowing that you are snug in your Mama's house, posting here.Don't get banned, AI. I worry about you out in public. You need this blog to keep you away from everyone else in our society.


Both you and reaganite began with personal attacks (typical modus operandi), the two of you then proceeded to make claims concering information...

Once the whole bruhaha was over with (to a degree), the questions your claims resulted in were asked...It is not my fault, you or reaganite refused to answer one question with a yes or a no...The questions begged for a yes or a no answer...Answering that one question would have made the second question unnecessary...As for the personal attacks, that is no surprise, it is your & reaganites modus operandi...

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#354 Ann 1/1/2006 08:58PM PST
#341 American Infidel

It is not my fault, you or reaganite refused to answer one question with a yes or a no...The questions begged for a yes or a no answer...Answering that one question would have made the second question unnecessary...

I answered it. reaganite is just a person, among many of our Military who made history. You accomplish nothing. People like you just criticize and have nothing to offer except whining.I feel sorry for you. I know that you envy those who are focused on doing versus those like you who just want to bitch.Bitching is so much easier than doing.Now I fully understand why you are so determined to discredit him.Sleep well, you lazy coward.Rough men stand ready to defend your sorry ass. You have the right to display your cowardice, thanks to men and women who serve to cover your right to criticize those who keep you safe.You have no idea.People like you are not worth defending, but that is not the position of the Armed Forces of the United States of America.



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